doing stupid things and saying stupid things politically, going on facebook after gabby giffords was shot, talking about blood libel, one mistake after another. >> it wasn't just that one line. >> there were, willie geist, so many republicans that really did believe -- and i told them they were dead wrong -- they really believed the benghazi hearings, and i heard this when they were getting sworn in, saying benghazi is going to be the issue where we're really going to get the country to turn on barack obama and hillary clinton. hillary clinton killed them. and once again, a self-inflicted wound. you had a senator going out saying oh, she was just faking her tears. >> oh, my god. >> and we do that time and time and time again. it's not just policy. it's how we play the game. and we have been clumsy and stupid for too long now. >> sarah palin represented something to a lot of people. she was a proxy, i feel like, for conservatives, for republicans to fight the media, to fight democrats, to fight president obama in 2008. she was a way for many of them to say, look how they're treating h